With that in mind, I would disagree with you on the reason you give for why God came to the garden that day. I dont believe I said anywhere in the post or in the comments that the coats of skin were made from animals, although I certainly believe this is easily the most logical conclusion. So no, I will not take down this post or apologize for it, unless you can actually show me where the Bible says that they did walk with God. I appreciate your effort Tim, thank you. That is why I have a whole series of commonly misused Bible versesnot to condemn but to encourage believers to elevate Scripture above our own ideas that weve unwittingly added to it. They walked and talked with God. He could have done it audibly from the heavens, or He could have spent time with Adam in the garden. They hear a sound. Im not sure you have dealt sufficiently with the argument that God must have walked with Adam and Eve in the garden previously for Adam and Eve to know that they sound they heard was God. Fifth, if someone doesn't like the idea that God knew they would be . #2 They both "saw" their nakedness. Here is a link to the Wikicommons page showing that this illustration is in the public domain: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png. 11 Not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Romans 5:10-12 I was scanning Gen 2&3 to use the text where God walked with Adam in the garden. Thanks again for reading! I appreciate your fidelity to Gods Word. Of course, since I work in a ministry that emphasizes Genesis 111, Im going to hear it more than most people. Genesis 3:8. In spite of being familiar with scripture, I never noticed that it doesnt exactly say this. We did not know, nor trained ourselves to do that and now see our own child in the consequences. He does indeed come down, but this time for confrontation and judgment, whereas before it had been for fellowship. Its one thing to believe that Adam and Eve walked with God and to recognize that its based on some fairly reasonable assumptions. Maybe He was physically there throughoutthe short time that they were in the Garden, but I have my doubts. This would still fit with the idea of God coming in judgment, which was given as a possibility in the article. So what did they hear in the Garden? Its not that the inferences are necessarily wrong, its that they should not be mistaken for the Word of God. by Erik Jones. #1 Eve "saw" that the tree was good for food. Nothing in that passage says it, and thats the main point of this post. I dont think it was a mystery to themat least not completely. It is possible that God literally walked in the Garden of Eden in the form of a human. In other words, man had a physical body made from the ground. It was idyllic. Sin Of Walking. Easy, no relevance to the story. They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden at the time of the evening breeze, and the man and his wife hid from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. Again, nothing in Scripture tells us that they walked with God or carried on a conversation with Him. That God would withhold his presence before they sinned, but then come down among them only after they sinned, seems counter to the biblical teaching of God drawing near to the righteous and drawing back from the unrighteous. Keep up the good work. If He did or didnt is still and can always be up for discussion , its a gut instinct in me that says no but at the end of the day Im just glad Im saved and can sort it out when I get to Heaven! I have found Bible studies that indicate that God fellowshipped or walked with Adam and Eve, and they refer to Genesis 3:8. They were to work the land 6 years right? There are several possibilities, such as siblings, nephews, and nieces. But what did they actually hear that made them afraid? Thank you for reaffirming to me that we can say anything about God and find some reason for or against our reasoning, and that is why we have to be very careful to know what Gods Word says! Yes, Im aware that the KJV translates the term as voice. But look closely, notice that it never says they walked with the voice of God. I agree that it is very possible that God walked with Adam and Eve in the garden but there is no written statement(s) that support this. They are intelligent, rational creatures, capable of communicating and worshiping God. He may have seen the trees and the garden as God spoke those words, but he probably hadnt eaten yet. He gives them clothes in Verse 21 because the evil deed, of eating from . (NASB) Gen. 3:8. Theologians have long wrestled with the very concept of being made in Gods image. This would have been after God made Eve and Adam awoke and uttered the words in Genesis 2:23. They hid when they heard God; however it was that they heard Him. constant) communication with God (e.g., the angel in Daniel 10:13 who was withstood by the prince of Persian for 21 days until Michael came to help him). Ive added that to the article now to help clarify that point. It is definitely possible that the person in the Garden was the preincarnate Christ. Bible Answer: They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. To be clearagain. Moses was only granted the backside of Jesus. Tim, thanks for striking the axe at the root of this human imagined concept. Thanks for taking the time to read and leave a comment. Tim. Like a child jumping in his fathers arm as he comes home from work. I see familiarity here. So it seems as if Abel had just recently passed away. These include appearances to Abraham, Hagar, Moses, Joshua (Joshua 5:13), Gideon (Judges 5:12), and the wife of Manoah (Judges 13:3). I plan to search through it much more. If He was walking, then this must have been a theophany - a pre-incarnate appearance of the Second Person of the Trinity. Well done! So Adam hears a sound, which he knows is the sound of God. In order to answer the question of why God created Adam and Eve naked we first need to look as some Scriptures which show that the Bible uses clothing is a symbol of our character. Anyway, Im very surprised I forgot to include a link to an article on theophanies that I wrote for Answers in Genesis. Please note that both boys were conceived and born after sin had entered the Earth. Once God addresses him, then Adam could say, I heard the sound of You in the garden (Gen. 2:10, ESV). You asked who they were conversing with. Did you notice something else about the way people typically define the image of God? Thats right, you are right there with them from birth, not that they were made a baby first of course, as that would take other humans to raise them as we know it! Notice that I said that I would argue that they are probably made in His image. I didnt claim that there was a clear cut and dry case that is beyond dispute. My argument wouldnt focus on the things you mentioned. There may have been thousands of years, who knows? You may be reaching for your Bible right now to prove me wrong. Psalm 29 also uses strong imagery to show how the sound of the Lord acts upon nature like a powerful storm, breaking and bending trees and stripping off their leaves (Psalm 29:59, NET). Behold we shall not sow,nor gather in our increase: now look at 21 Then I will command my blessing upon you in the sixth year and it shall bring forth fruit for 3 years 22 and you shall sow the 8th year and eat of the old fruit until the 9th year until the fruits come in. Ok, we have God as a highly elevated being that perhaps didnt want to spend timewith all of this. Hi Robert, Thank you for your thoughts I do understand the whirlwind , but Gen says God made them clothes from an animal to replace mans attempt of covering his nakedness. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name.<<<<. However, I also notice in chapter 2 that Adam recognized God speaking (commanding) to him concerning the forbidden tree. The Tree-of-Life was in the middle of the garden, also the Tree-of-Knowledge-of-Good-and-Evil. To the second point in your conclusion, I think it is quite speculative. Like I mentioned before, I dont have a problem with the idea that they may have walked with God in the garden. The Lord God Walking in the Garden. No human can view the full reality of God and . Because we are made in Gods image, we are called to image God. I would be with this item all day and be close to me at nite. If how we are not that naive to believe that this is a new thing with Him, no we can reasonably infer that God spent time with Adam and Eve. My main point is that we dont go around saying that the Bible says that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden, because that just isnt in there. It is true that the Bible does not say, Adam and Eve never walked with God in the garden. That isnt the point of my post. Far too many people run around claiming, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden, but as Ive pointed out, it doesnt say that. Hi Ian, In fact, they didn't even know what want and longing were! Adam and Eve said, 'Lord, when we were in the garden, You walked with us every day. If Im narrating a scene, I can write that the main character heard a certain sound (e.g., an approaching truck or an army on the march) before the character realizes what it is that he is hearing. Thanks for the kind response. Thanks for taking the time to read the article and for the comment. 8 Then GOD planted a garden in Eden, in the east. Maybe they did, but the text doesnt tell us that. Garden of Eden story: summary. 5 Bible Verses about God Walking. I agree with you that we cannot say with certainty that God walked with them, I am just here to point out that the language suggests a repetitive habit of God. And I think a strong case can be made for the notion that they werent in the garden very long at all. When God said, Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat Adam knew what a tree was, what the garden was, and what eating was. Again, in Gen 3:24, we see that God drove the man out of the Garden of Eden. Who is this that would kill him? Who was his wife? They were not merely spiritual beings at that point. If I am walkin* with you I would assume you are walking with me? But why wouldnt the Israelites use the animals for sustenance-milk,meat,skins, etc. "Walked with God" is a favorite expression in Genesis, depicting the righteous conduct of Israel's heroes, including Enoch, Noah, and Abraham. As you know, I couldnt find it. Answer (1 of 22): Yes. At the same time, Adam understood what God meant when He spoke to him, so there clearly was some preprogramming that occurred when God created him. I too feel in my sosirt that God did not walk physically. Jack ~'()~ Because they nearly always cite the verse about Adam and Eve hearing the sound of the Lord walking in the garden. Seasoned or mature believers should know the text, the text is the milk, living the text is the meat. He created a vast array of angels prior to the creation of man, so theres no guarantee that God spent a bunch of time with Adam and Eve. Also, Adam didnt necessarily say that he heard Gods voice (some Bibles translate it that way), but it could just as accurately be translated as your sound in the garden. I believe it is very important to know what is and isnt in the Bible. God then planted a garden 'eastward in Eden' (2:8), containing both the tree of life and 'the tree of knowledge of good . When God gave commandments to Adam and Eve, he also granted them the ability to intelligently decide whether to keep that covenant from God, or choose to disobey God. Not because I think Im right and feel holier than thou but it was just something burning in me saying NO. God communicated many things to Adam. We do see examples of theophanies in the Old Testament where God does appear to people in human form, as He did to Abraham. never seen what GOD actually looks like. Keep up the good work brother, the TRUTH shall be the only thing that sets us free. thank you so much. Man, this helped challenge me to really read through the scriptures on this topic. I just dont get your argument. Adam said, I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself (Genesis 3:10, ESV). Im not sure what this has to do with whether they walked with God in the garden. Genesis 3:8 KJV. We "Walk With God" in Meditating upon His Word. However, were here to serve everyone without cost, so please dont feel obligated to give unless the Lord leads. * In The Garden * And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden. They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. The term used to explain this and other episodes is anthropomorphism (human-forms). they heard him rebuke them. Here is the verse in its entirety. the Bible states that the man (species) was driven out of the Garden of Eden. However, the walk in these passages should probably be understood in a figurative sense. Since the Bible doesnt make this claim, its impossible to know for sure where people get the idea from. When He asked them why they hid they answered Him. Therefore, it is likely that Adam and Eve had been experiencing close fellowship with the Lord God. Adam and Eve loved to . Haha very eye opening. I must stand corrected as I also remembered Adam and Eve walking in the cool of the afternoon with God. for details. Not all of the time of course, how else would they have rebelled against Him. It is not an issue of molester in the same room with a kid. That would be really cool. I hear it on a regular basis, and many of my coworkers have said it. In conclusion, the whole of chapter 2 & 3 causes me to conclude that Adam regularly communed with God somehow; and to me probably daily (or at least almost) since we know we are the apple of His eye. Our adversary seeks to discredit the validity of the Word of God. The problem with this claim is that youll never find a Bible verse that teaches it. . http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1349, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png, https://answersingenesis.org/jesus-christ/incarnation/theophanies-in-the-old-testament/, https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/cains-wife-who-was-she/, http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1747. I can see that they heard either a sound or a voice. We read that God planted a garden and placed Adam there to tend it ( Genesis 2:8, 15 ). Could Adam and Eve have actually taken walks with God in the Garden? " (John 1:18) . Contemporary English Version Late in the afternoon, when the breeze began to blow, the man and woman heard the LORD God walking in the garden. My main point throughout has been to direct people back to Scripture to see what it really says. Thank you for helpful writing. Here is the verse in its entirety. The main point of this entire post is to encourage Christians to look closely at Scripture, so that they will stop saying, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God or something very similar. Of course, from this view God was perceiveably with the pre-Fallen Adam and Eve, so that they had the privilege of regularly hanging out with Him. But Adam and Eve were almost certainly not in the Garden very long prior to their Fall. Gen 2:16-17. Third, Adams response at seeing Eve confirms the point: This is now bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh (Genesis 2:23). If we were to narrowly abide only what the text OUTRIGHT affirms of given things, then this inference would be patently erroneous or, at least, unreasonable. Can a whirlwind fulfill those processes? Psalm 104:3. Their physical condition changed as a result of their eating the forbidden fruit. It is a special, peaceful garden oasis God created as a home for Adam and Eve (and maybe also Lilith) where their two jobs were to give animals names . Why werent they mentioned? Awesome, you as a Dad leading his children, as the word instructs. However, many scholars believe the best way to explain the image of God is to think of it as a verb. Yes, they could have done this if God made a physical appearance (called a theophany), as He did in other places (e.g., Genesis 12:7; 18:1). When I was young I remember the most favorites of things I would get for Christmas. Adam understood what God meant when he was given instructions because God made him with the ability to understand those things. The chronology of the genealogy of the man is followed throughout the Bible. How do I know? When the Lord made him on the sixth day, He commanded him not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. god wanted to walk (live) with them in an ongoing and fruitful relationship and the whole book of Leviticus shows them how to correctly walk with god. Although I agree, you simply cannot prove this one way or another, however I believe the scripture gives us enough evidence to assume with confadence, that Jesus did take a physical form and did actually, literally walk through the garden. Personal fellowship with God is at the very heart of our purpose for being! And they heard the sound of the Lord God, walking in the garden. One good example is Leviticus 26:12 AND I WILL WALK AMONG YOU AND BE YOUR GOD. I also see or notice (for first time) that the description occurred after the fall & is only described once. Daniel, Due to the craftiness of the serpent, sin found its way into the Garden and everything fell apart. No, I mean that God must have spent time with them in order to teach them, how else would they learn to talk, to till the land, to eat, to basically live their lives in a way that was pleasing to Him! 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, >>>>>and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And a good place to start is The Garden of Eden. An additional notable commentary is that God made Adam in His image and likeness, and imbued him with His Spirit the breath of life. And maybe that is it, people just want to believe they they did as that is such a powerful feeling knowing God is walking with you. The same (principle) applies to the natural reading of anything: that according to the thing itself. Hi Daniel, Suggestions include that it means we are made as rational creatures that can communicate with and worship God, or that we have been given dominion, or that we will live forever. Adam said, I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself (Genesis 3:10, ESV). Hi Jeff, Would that seem that they must have heard His voice at some other time. Much like those of us that have the infilling of the Holy Ghost and walk in the Spirit. Whats different, and merits the commentary, is not that God has for the first time come to walk in the Garden, but that for the first time his walking in the Garden is responded to in fear and hiding, due to sin. Thats correct, and I write about that in my book, Fallen. Here is a portion of what I wrote on page 72 of my book, Fallen. 30? I believe when the Bible states they heard the Lord in the cool of the day I think its a spiritual voice. If you eat from the tree in the middle of the garden, you will die!". But as seasoned believers we need to understand it is better to use our hearts to hear the sermons the pastors preach rather than the details of the text. Then brought Eve to him. God must have schooled him in his new surroundings. The natural reading of arithmetic is that according to arithmetic. It was the sound of God that Adam heard. Im not opposed to this idea. Of course, Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden, its written right there in Genesisumahis it 3? Genesis 3:8-9 . It is meant to point out to people that the text doesnt say what so many people have claimed that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden. So if they were in the garden for a month, how many times (if ever) did they walk with God? So there is no need to appeal to some sort of walk in the garden for them to know Gods voice. The NRSV's rendering makes the time more explicit, "at the time of the evening breeze" (also REB). And I completely agree that where Adam failed, Christ prevailed. Genesis 3:8 ? Tim please do a small word study on walking and when you do you will find that walking refers to a living relationship with the said persons mentioned . If used in this sense, Adam and Eve did walk with God prior to sin because there was no fracture in their relationship with God. In that claim, I put your OWN verbatim in single quotes. Ive heard far too many people claim, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the cool of the day. Thats simply false. I worship in His presence and put off His presence! I think it would be odd for God to first come walking in the garden with Adam and Eve only after they had sinned. Adam and Eve enjoyed a relationship with God, and with each other, that was unhindered by the disruptive power of sin. As I mentioned in my conclusion, God certainly could have taken taken strolls with Adam and Eve, but the Bible does not directly teach this, and I have my doubts about it. Thanks for the comment and for taking the time to read the post. 21 AND IF YOU WALK CONTRARY TO ME AND NOT LISTEN TO ME THEN I WILL ring 7 times more plagues upon you 22 I will also send wild beasts among you 23 and if you will not be reformed by me by these things BUT WILL WALK CONTRARY TO ME 24 THEN I WILL WALK CONTRARY TO YOU and punish you 7 times more for your sins ILL TAKE YOUR APOLIGE NOW ,,WHERE THEY USE TO WALK WITH GOD ,THEY CHOOSE TO HIDE !! I dont know if I will recieve a responce or not, but it does not say that God made them skins from animals. Totally agree with you to know that not everything was told to us, but take what we are told and use it for good, not for argument. The serpent Satan asked her how she was doing. But what does it really matter, what appears to have happened here (according to some of the responses) is that golden calves have been kicked over and religion has taken a bump on the shins. Genesis 3:21 comes after Genesis 3:7, in which Adam and Eve ate from the Tree and realized they were naked. In Lev 26 god goes into great detail about how they were to walk with god and how god would walk with them ( please dont say ohhh but it doesnt say it) it does say very loudly its deafening. There are many others that could be added to this list but this illustrates . But it would be nice for you or someone else to show me where the Bible ever makes that claim. The reasoning for this conclusion may make more sense in the next post on Cain and Abel. For example, the Passover lamb was to be eaten (Exodus 12:8). The natural connotation, to me, is that God often did this, perhaps daily in the cool of the day, but what was remarkable this time was that man was afraid, because he had sinned. Hi Warren, It seems so trivial. Genesis 3:8 KJV. Thanks for reading. I have been studying this part about god walking with Adam when I came across your post. God told them to be fruitful and multiply. Just a quick note: The verb used here in verse 8 to describe the divine movement of God mihalli (sorry, my keyboard isnt able to type this word out correctly) suggests iterative and habitual aspects. This is what most people have in mind when they speak of the Lord walking with Adam and Eve. ~~~~~ There are other passages in Scripture about those who did walk with God. And how many times is this a supporting argument for a main point or the main point itself? who knows perhaps it was. The texts of Genesis 1-3 outright tell us ONLY what is necessary for our understanding of the events from Creation to the Fall, not of side issues that mean nothing for a proper interpretation of these texts. Hi Janice, But thats not at all what is going on here. So is this one (post-Fall) verse sufficient to establish that God was in the habit of visiting with Adam and Eve in the Garden? 9 But the LORD God called out to the man, "Where are you?" 10 "I heard Your voice in the garden," he replied . Thank you Michael. He is eternally begotten of the Father, one with the Father, in essence, but he had not yet become flesh. So if the strong wind idea is actually being conveyed by the Hebrew, then there is no textual basis for claiming that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden in the cool of the day. The complete bible account of the story of Adam and Eve can be found in Genesis 1:26 to Genesis 5:5. This could be literally translated "the wind of that day." Some think this might refer to a strong wind. Song of Solomon 4:6. They will live forever, and as well see in the coming chapters, some of them have been given dominion over certain things. 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